The one about nurses

Yesterday the BNP Leader was interviewed on BBC Radio and because his party is known for it controversial Foreign Policy this formed the basis on the interview. How many people will be allowed into the UK and an what what basis were his party to win.

By way of justifying his party’s stance on immigration he said they would not allow in people that had nothing to contribute before he turned onto nurses, he said

I would like to end the reliance of nurses from Malawi. Malawi needs it nurse so the UK should train its own nurses

I posted this comment on Facebook and asked if he was right and here are the responses I got

Ivan Kibuka-Kiguli U bet he is. But it it all comes to $, $ and more $.
Grace Nakate

Ida – I can see why his reasoning might carry weight.

1. To retain medical staff leaving Malawi in order to redress their own health infrastructure.
2. To redress unemployment within the UK within the nursing and midwifery sectors.

However – to me, it is his take on foreign policy which should perhaps be questionable as this to me is where the misconceptions and limited knowledge that factors in some of the narrow-mindedness policies of the BNP. If foreign policy worked hand in hand with policing Brit companies that profit from corrupt governments in places like Malawi – there wouldn’t be a drain on resources at the rate we see on either side.

Michael Trup

In many ways attracting trained medical personnel from developing world is just exploitation in the service industries. The benefit to the developing country is in the remittances and more sophisticated training the staff get…IF they return.

The NHS should reimburse the country concerned the training costs for every member of staff lured to work… See More here. This would reflect the true cost to the developing country and to the NHS here. It might force us to pay medical staff more to attract more locals to train, but if it didn’t it would lead to more developing country nationals being trained to replace the loss.

Historically, the NHS does not pay high salaries so persons from developing countries, Jamaica included the meagre salary looks attractive and the training is the highest in the world.
The indigenous persons do not like to actually work, and not not having the human resources after the war. We all know that at one point it was in the developing  world persons where sought to ‘build the Mother country’. And we sure did!!! Irish women were Matrons, and excellent too and they suffered discrimination from the English too!
BNP leader just like to talk and has no solution to his funky ideas!! How many young people of ‘english’ descendent want to be a nurse? I doubt not many!!!
Michael Trup

Funnily enough, many ‘English’ nurses go to work in the USA or Australia for better money and conditions.
I found these comments interesting in the light of the recent discussion here on Economic Migration and Immigration in general

If as per Michael’s response UK nurses go elsewhere for a better income why is this wrong/objectionable fr nurses from the developing world coming here? And of course there is Brenda’s point of view, we often forget that these issues affect the West Indies as well as the Irish.

So where does this leave us. Both Grace and Ivan agree the  BNP leader has a valid point but his motives do not add up.

Is the answer in improving pay for nurses to make it more attractive for them to remain in their own countries?

What do you think? Join the debate. Is the BNP leader right if so why?

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Being gay and famous in the UK isn’t newsworthy

A survey that came out today shows that British people are more liberal towards same sex couples. Kelvin McKenzie a former Editor of The Sun newspaper and Michael Cashman an openly Gay politician  were interviewed by  John Humphreys on Radio 4 this morning (listen at 2hours 10 minutes) on the issue of our changing attitudes to homosexuality here in the UK.

What came out of that interview was that indeed attitudes have changed and if you are a celebrity and gay in the UK this is unlikely to make news, but on the other hand if you a heterosexual celebrity who is caught cheating on your spouse things might be different such as they were with Tiger Woods

As I listened I was reminded of a news story that broke whilst I was in Uganda last month. I generally switch off from  news whilst I am on holiday and las month was no different only this time I could not escape from the news especially this particular news. I received a text message from a friend in London saying,

Ida is it true what they are saying about the abuse of gay rights in Uganda? it is all over the headlines including the BBC, there is a call for a ban on all Ugandan products!

I recalled a recent conversation that I had had, with a UK based  immigration lawyer prior to going out to Uganda. He said he had seen an increase in Ugandans applying for asylum in the UK. They are fleeing from persecution in Uganda, he had told me.

I said I didn’t know but I would imagine this to be a sensitive issue and I would discreetly find out

I grew p in Uganda but was not aware of Homosexuality until I came to the UK, I remember asking my mother whether there were gay people in Uganda and she said yes there were but they had to be very discreet as it was a taboo. I later learned from my then landlord (Simon) who also happened to be gay that this is how things were for gay people in the UK many years ago. Simon was great, I asked  him all manner of questions about his sexuality and he answered them openly and I thank him for educating me.

Being in Uganda and wanting to get to the bottom of the headlines behind this story was not going to be  easy. Uganda is a very religious country and a very conservative one at that and the anti gay private members bill in parliament  appeared to have support from all various corners fo the country.

I thought the best approach was to ask family members and they all felt that in spite of the strong feelings in some quarters such a bill would never be passed for various reasons but mostly because the  country had a lot to lose!  I never explored this but I understood what they meant.

Things have since moved on as I learned from my twitter buddy @jkainja that Uganda is not alone in her view on the rights of gay people and furthermore the West is using AID as stick with which to beat  Uganda and Malawi with if they don’t reconsider their views. You can read the rest of his thread here and here is what my other buddy @TMSruge had to say.

It would appear that  dependency on AID by African governments to supplement their budgets leaves them vulnerable should donor disagree with their policies.  Is this what  my relatives meant when they said Uganda has a lot to lsoe by passing such a bill? Can Africa manage without donor AID?

Human rights abuse should not be tolerated in any society, it stands in the  way of development and engenders a culture of fear amongst citizens cutting of creativity and economic growth.  I am hoping that both  Malawi and Uganda do indeed reconsider their stance on the issue of homosexuality.

Going back to today’s report on social attitudes in the UK, it has taken the UK a longtime to get to a state of tolerance in as far as homosexuality is concerned. Isn’t it best to work with the African governments and share that  lessons that have  been learned here in the UK?

Those are my thoughts. Have you got a view of any of the issue raised here? if so I would love to hear it.

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Are Millennium Goals helping me?

This week the Department for International Development here in the UK has issued a new report ELIMINATING POVERTY : Building Common future,  which spells out a new direction  and  desire to address issue of poverty in the developing world and amongst other things the report looks at the impact of the economic downturn on those in the developing countries.

And at the UN summit of September 2000 the richest nations in the world made pledges to the development world that are summed up in what has become to be known as the

Millennium Development Goals or MDGs

  • Goal 1:  Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
  • Goal 2: Achieve universal primary education
  • Goal 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
  • Goal 4:  Reduce child mortality
  • Goal 5:  Improve maternal health
  • Goal 6:  Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases
  • Goal 7:  Ensure environmental sustainability
  • Goal 8:  Develop a Global Partnership for Development

This was an ambitious undertaking on the one hand but one that gave hope  to folk in the developing world that we in the developed world are committed to making things better for them.

The question I ask today is whether these goals will be realised?  There has been an increase in AID but will increased AID have  made a difference in 2015? Can we in the west wait that long? what about the  folk in the developing can they wait until 2015 for the goals to be realised?

There is concern in some quarters that the MDGS will not be realised in some African countries and this appears to stem from the fact that

  • not everyone signed up to the MDGS ( it was reported earlier this year that France and Italy are two of the countries that ahve failed to honour the pledges made towards Africa)
  • increased insecurity in some  of the African countries
  • impact of diseases such as malaria and HIV
  • family breakdown
  • food availability
  • Climate change
  • and AID distribution to name but a few

Most including myself argue that the surest way to lift people out of poverty in a sustainable way is through trade.  That being the case how are we doing on that front? Are trade agreements more equitable now than they were in 2000? Are folk in the developing countries treated as equal or even potential trading partners?

Well one thing that is certain, is that Africa in particular has seen an increase in cheap imports from china, second  hand clothing and FOOD AID. Only last week I was speaking to a man I met at the Africa Matters get together. He lived in Zambia for many years as a farmer and produced vegetable oil.

He was put out of business in 6 months when cooking Oil given to Mozambique by USAID as part of teh FOOD AID package ended up for sale on the streets of Lusaka. I understand that cotton farmers in Zambia and Malawi suffered a similar fate with the increased cheap imports from China as well as second hand clothing.

Some African governments are fighting back by imposing huge DUTY on these cheap imports but what do you about FOOD AID?

So I ask the question are Millennium goals helping me?

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